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PostSubject: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:45 pm
Hi guys! Smile

This is my Chaos Dragons Deck, it's a work-in-progress and any help would be much appreciated.

So without further ado, here's the deck list:

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And that, is that.
I'm pretty sure most of the cards are self-explanatory but if your unsure, just ask and I'll explain its purpose in my deck.

Also, if you wanna duel to see how it runs, just PM me any time! Smile

Once again, any criticism is helpful.

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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:57 pm
Deck looks good. Only thing I'd advise is to remove the Zephyros and a Debris for a Darkflare Dragon and a Lyla. Might want to remove the Treacherous for something but to be honest I don't know what would replace it. A third Veiler maybe?

Extra needs Constellar Messier 7. Too broken not to run. Take out that cannon lol
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:20 pm
LOL thanks for the tips Kenshi.
Messier 7 is epic! I can't believe I didn't have him already, and he's level 6, which is good for this deck.
I already removed 1 Debris LOL, he's good 'cus I can combo him with Zephyros to bring back monsters like Maxx "C" and Veiler to re-use.
I struggle to use my 2 Veilers as it is LOL and what's wrong with Treacherous? It fits in well. Sad What about Royal Decree?
I used to have 3 Lylas but I was told that was too much, and I don't like Darkflare much (used to have 1), especially since you can't combo him with Eclipse Wyvern as you might think.
Also, the Cannon was recommended LOL:
"You'd be surprised how many times you can bring it out."
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:32 pm
Decree is better for the side deck, to be honest you have enough S/T removal in the main. I suggested another Lyla because sometimes you need that extra Solar target after you've just set Ryko. Not to mention it's a master-baiter.

There's nothing wrong with Treacherous, I just don't see it fitting in well here. It's a very aggro deck and most of the time you have no trouble running over monsters. You also have a lot of outs to multiple things. It's different in a build like Chaos Agents because they have a Shine Ball or Gachi to destroy with an opponent's monster. I can imagine there being multiple scenarios where a simple Bottomless or Compuls would be better than TTT in Chaos Dragons.

What about single or double Rai-oh? Good opening play, he hits everything and is nice if you have Trag in hand.

I can imagine Cannon being a very rare occurrence...
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:51 pm
That makes sense, and I've been having the problem with Ryko and Recharge for a while now. But excuse me for asking but what is a "master-baiter"? LOL

I always knew it went against the deck, I just thought it'd be fun to use. Sad It would get funny reactions.

And I've been wanting to put in Rai-Oh, just don't know who to replace him for. But how does he go with Trag?

LOL I said that too, I haven't had enough duels to judge but he said Rde-Eyes and Trag, which makes sense Trag is easy to summon and so is Red.
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:19 am
A master-baiter is something that baits traps almost all of the time of course!

Rai-oh goes with Trag because if you're against a deck that can pump out a monster bigger than Rai-oh without it being an inherent Special Summon, when Rai-oh is destroyed you can then summon Trag. If you were to summon Rai-oh on turn 1 and this scenario were to happen on turn 2, assuming you don't set anything, Trag would have 3000 ATK. This happens quite a bit in decks that use minimal to no cards that require being set in teh backrow, and Rai-oh has a habit of staying around for a while. 3000 gets over pretty much anything in the meta.
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:06 am
LOL I guess that makes sense. O.o

Oh, I see but how often are you gonna get Rai-oh and Trag on turn 1?

I'm gonna start putting some of your suggestions into play now and see how it works out. Smile I'll keep you posted. Also, I mannaged to pull of Red-Eyes/Trag → Cannon in my last duel LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:12 pm
Alright, the changes I've made so far are:

- Zephyros
+ Rai-Oh

- Maestroke
+ Messier 7

I'll test these out and we'll so how it goes. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:36 pm
meh chaos dragons are monsters deck so as kenshi said put in side 3 decree , so in main i well say remove decree and put it in side and remove 2 maxx c and go to side for 2 darkflare and an extra MST , u wouldnt want backrow in ur game
i see u have some new ideas so i wouldnt say more atm test it out and tell me the result Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:48 pm
Thanks for helping mouzou. Smile

I'm not using Decree atm, i was considering it. But yeah, it belongs in the Side Deck.
I used to have 3 Maxx "C"s LOL.
And I don't get what is with all this hype about Darkflare, everyone's been telling me to put more of him in.
What do you mean by "Backrow"? When opponent has S/Ts?

LOL thanks and I'm testing out Kenshi's ideas atm, I'll test yours next and tell you how it goes. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:13 pm
Darkflare is the engine of the deck: I personally run at least 2 of him, even 3 with Future Fusion gone.
Other than that Kenshi's ideas are good.
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:27 pm
I've got 2 Darkflares now and I hope that's enough. LOL.
With 2 Darkflares I'm gonna need some LVL 5 Xyz, any ideas (I'm not very familiar with the newer cards).
Also, I think I've got too many Chaos monsers now O.o The dragons are fine since they don't require special summons (Except Dark Armed), But BLS and Sorcerer do. I reckon I should ditch Sorcerer.
What do you guys think?
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:34 pm
You should keep Chaos monsters: worst case you can always ditch them for Pulsar. Besides with 2 Trooper and the LS engine you should have enough targets unless they have a macro up.
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:43 pm
Hmm, OK I'll keep him, thanks. Smile
But I have been getting a few dead draws recently...
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:33 pm
Your main deck looks pretty good to me. Personally, I prefer running 3 Darkflare (Another dark + speeds up the deck) and 3 Lyla (S/T hate pretty much always good). Useful rank 5's are Tiras (Beater and shield) and Adreus/Volcasaurous (Volca deals direct damage, but Adreus is a dark). Since you're running a build that uses Synchros, I would suggest adding in Plaguespreader Zombie (Great if milled and can be used as a free tribute) and Void Ogre Dragon (PVZ is a dark tuner and Lightpulsar is lvl 6). Also, another tech choice for the main deck is Phantom of Chaos (Great for milled darks, grave control for summoning DAD or even banishing DAD while your grave is loaded with darks). I would suggest removing most of the traps. The reason that Chaos Dragon decks don't main traps is that they are too slow. Putting them into the side just to side in later defeats the whole purpose of it. However, some traps, such as Royal Decree are better used when sided in so not all traps need to go.
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:17 am
WOW! Thanks Neocryx, I can't wait to check those cards out. Very Happy

I do have a tip for you though:
Change your font. O.o

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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:22 am
I also forgot to mention, if you do decide to add another Lyla, you can side one of your MST's for space if needed. Also, I would like to suggest taking out Chimeratech/Cydras for System Down as this will free up a spot in your extra deck. Another few useful synchros I've found are Explode Wing Dragon (sometimes more useful than Black Rose and is lvl 7 and dark so it can summoned though debris+card trooper and Lightpulsar/REDMD if in grave) and Dark End Dragon (lvl 8 and dark, harder to summon and usually with Trag or Chaos Sorc with PVZ, but his effect sends other cards to the grave instead of destroying and again, Lightpulsar/REDMD can bring it back from the grave).

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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:07 am
Again, great cards Neocryx. Smile
I'm unsure of what to pick though. O.o
This is what I've don so far:

- Temptempo
- Exa-Beetle
+ Tiras
+ Volcasaurus
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:09 am
I would keep Exa-Beetle. If you equip and send a Lightpulsar to the grave, Lightpulsar's effect still goes off. My advice in addition to your current changes would be:

-Chimeratech
-2 Cydra (Side)
+Exa-Beetle
+2 System Down (Side)

How useful are Trident Dragon, Atum, and Gustav? Atum seems like an interesting tech but Trident and Gustav seem too situational to be of much use.
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:54 am
Take out Debris Dragon, max Darkflare to 3. Keep temtempo its the most versatile card against XYZ, and can easily put your opponent in a spot. Dark Coffin is a very nice tech card that sets up mind games for your opponent. They will never try msting again. You can use it to your favor in siding.

Nobleman will most likely be better than system down in this scenario. While you are setting up plays you use nobleman to prevent your opponent from trying to set up plays before exploding with Geargi Machina, or Kara Machina Decks.

If you try the conservative Gravekeeper Engine it makes going into XYZ like Queen Dragun, and Especially Shock Master much easier.
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:09 am
IMO System Down is better than Nobleman because it's useful even after Geargia variants explode (excluding Shock Master plays). However, Nobleman can also be used against other decks (at your own risk). Either way Cydra/Chimeratech should be swapped out for more room in the extra deck given this is a synchro oriented build and space is tight there. Gravekeeper Engine always seemed too cluttered to me.


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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:59 pm
I'm confused... what exactly is a "tech choice"?
I had no idea the effect works with Exa-beetle, I'm deffo putting him back in now LOL.
I like my Chimeratech Sad It's fun to use and much more powerful than System Down. It does take up a lot of space though. O.o
As for Trident and Gustav, you'd be surprised how often I get them out. Trident is easy thanks to Debris and Pulsar (Pulsar's easy to summon), I use Debris' effect to bring back a low LVL monster then tribute it for Tridents' eff. it's a nice combo. As for Gustav, I was cynical at first but turns out to be a regular occurrence thanks to the easy summoning of Red-Eyes and Trag.
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:58 pm
Every deck has a basic build/skeleton. The left over spots are for "tech" choices which are cards you put in your deck to combat other decks or to test with. For example, standard Chaos Dragon deck skeleton would have about 36 staple cards:
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This leaves you with about 4-5 spots for your own choosing, such as Jain, TKRO, or TTT.

Personally, my extra deck is too tight to run Chimeratech/Trident/Gustav but I suppose they could be useful. Also testing out Beast God Vulcan as it seems like a lot better of a lvl 6 choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:49 am
Oh right, thanks. Smile
I don't know about Vulcan though...
I'm currently testing Atum atm, but I'm not really sure ow to use him. O.o I often summon Red-Eyes from deck, then use his effect to resurrect.
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PostSubject: Re: Chaos Dragons Deck   Chaos Dragons Deck Icon_m11Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:17 pm
That Dark Coffin idea sounds interesting, can't wait to try it out and mess with their mind. Very Happy
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