we have the same deck limits as in BA

as this way we dont have otk, burn or exo wins in war duel. in every war there are rules so everything is FAIR

this rule should be brought in after the war championship o that way poeple who are using those decks can still injoy there cheap wins

This is what forces u to be more creative in your duels than ba's..

Frankly I'm not that happy about the BA rules, since it limits some decks, and you can have a standard side deck u can use for everything.

If you're having problems with exodia, otk or burn, side in prim dragon, fader or heavy slump. Also, war duels are pretty much a copy of real life dueling, which is great..

even in RL they do have extended ban lists

Personally, I'm not against burn, exo, or other troll-type decks. They're usually more inconsistent than most decks, and I find that they can be useful in giving more variety to duels. These decks counter certain meta decks, as you've found out. However, their inconsistency makes it only a good choice if you think the opponent will be using the deck it counters. So their inclusion in wars deters players from constantly playing the same deck over and over again. Dark Worlds have a good matchup against many decks, yet no one ever considers outright banning them, right? The same principle should be applied to all decks.

u cant ban OTK decks sence it is kinda stupid xD
everyone use them in wars

OTK decks arn't even banned in BA's...

FTK decks are but no I think the war rules are fine as they are now.

Yep, as everyone said - in war everything should be allowed - the same as in the TCG/OCG game.

These mentioned decks are not reliable at all - they're only good to punish players that use the same deck over and over again. xD

u cant FTK in the very 1st turn since u cant atk with DW in the 1st turn. but using exo, empty jar, burns or other types of decks will still give a huge 1st turn unfair advantage to the opponents. and many times if u r good with those decks, u can win in the 1st turn which doesn't give the opponent to fight bck. that I really don't want in wars coz think about it, if ppl knws they can use all those decks and win in the 1st few turns if they r good, then why would they use decks that fights head on? even tho DW has a match up against a lot of decks, it also has A LOT of cards that u can side to stop it like consecrated light and shadow imprisoning which can destroy the deck same as soul drain and removing cards destroys mermails. but u cant really side much against those FTK decks since they can just finish the game in the 1st turn some times. and even if u do side against it, many times u don't draw ur side cards.
so in my opinion, if those decks becomes legal for war, I think almost 90% of the ppl will start using all those decks that kills in a few turns and one of those ppl will be me . and the rest of those 10% will learn soon after losing a lot and start using same decks as everyone else which will lead to ppl using same decks in war and make war boring. I do want more new rules that we can abuse after sometime but allowing those decks will kill it. xD
so I would hav OTK deck but not those exo, burn, empty jar decks :p

So these decks that you want banned, are they that good in wars? I haven't played against them in wars and have war duelled 28 times, so I wouldn't know. Forgive me for asking that but I assume that you only want them banned because so many people are using these old decks for those "cheap wins" you're talking about.

lawl, the empty jar is pretty unconsistant, and so are most of the FTK decks since they rely on very few cards.. sure once U get it rolling, it can be hard to stop, but thats what side decks are for.

There's a reason why FTK decks don't top at regionals; they aren't even popular because of the inconsistancy and ability to side against it and shut it down.

FTK Decks, are boring in my opinion what are you proving? That you beat your opponent "In one Turn" you are proving nothing if you can't beat your opponent fair and square over their own moves!

P.S sorry about my grammer is bad

oh shutt upppp!!! u know nothing... NOOB!

Just close this thread. It's devolving pretty quickly. It's an obvious attempt by Sindrake after his Fire Fists got burned to death, which was only prompted by his overuse of said Fire Fist deck. He just wants one of his bad match-ups removed. It's what the Side Deck is for - use it well.

Also, I'm pretty sure both War Managers' opinions (mine and Nichigo's) will be the same, so we'll not put an extra banlist in wars. If you think using one of the troll decks can get you wins, go for it. You'll see how inconsistent they are if they don't match up against certain decks.

Most of those decks lose pretty easily to decks that can bring out Shock Master or easy negation, like WindUps, Rabbit, anything with Rekindling, etc. etc. etc.

omg..what are you arguing about....I'm afraid I will agree with liyana and say that statistics speak for themselves! 90% and more of those i have dueled in wars have used meta decks and not burn or exo or FTK....
In a war everything should be allowed : You want to use burn deck...?? Go ahead but if u get first turn decree or shock master calling traps etc etc..don't cry about the result. Personally i've never used such a deck in a war cause incosistency as mentioned above is too high to take the risk. I'd only do it like Lord said to punish someone using the same deck all over again

*Whistles to mods to lock this thread*

I would not want to run Empty Jar in an enviroment where people are siding 2-3 Gemini Imps..