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crazy88
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| Subject: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:46 pm | used to be hieratic dragunity until dead draws screwed me out of at least ra yellow status. i'm looking to swarm the field and beatdown opponents infron reckless is there to bring out red nova and dragon's mirror for fgd note: I plan on adding tachyon dragon when it comes out |
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Austin
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:20 pm | idk from where i start , u want to put a couple of diffrent builds togther , this cant work out
first : focus on one build not a couple togther second : ur cards choices is bad , ik there a lot of cards that look cool but not all well work in the deck , this why u get a lot of deads draws
when u choose what build u exacly want then we can give help |
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Jaaden
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| Subject: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:22 pm | this deck lacks alot of shiz 1:consistency so Many dead draws 2:too many concepts so what Mouzou said is True |
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crazy88
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:31 pm | ok I would like an atum dragunity build |
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TmcJagger
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:42 pm | Then that's your basic Hieratic build. |
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crazy88
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:52 pm | Yeah but I also want to able to swarm. I was considering the mystletainn engine but I also want access to fgd or red nova if I need them (leaning more toward fgd cause I barely ever get to use red nova) |
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TmcJagger
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:19 pm | Then look up a staple Hieratic build. Just tech in Dragons Mirror and FGD. |
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Kenshi
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:21 pm | The most common Hieratic builds are the ones that do not use Dragon's Ravine, so I wouldn't call it basic. Atum Dragunity is a specific build. OP, you want to focus on spamming Atum and not trying to do too much, like using Red Nova and Inferno Reckless. That's too much and the deck will pay for that with consistency. I'll give you some deck fixes and tips that should give you what you need.
You're going to want more Mystletainn due to it's level (it's also an answer to Veiler), more Zephyrous (it's sick in here and can be ditched later on with Ravine), another Ravine and 3 Terraforming. These combo pieces are all very important so you want to maximise your chances of drawing/opening with them
+1 Mystletainn +2 Zephyrous +1 Dragon's Ravine +3 Terraforming
combo example:
Use Ravine, ditch Zephyrous for Phalanx if you don't have it Bounce Ravine with Zeph Use Ravine to ditch Phalanx and add Dux Summon Dux, get Phalanx, summon Vajrayana Get Phalanx with Vaj, then Sync Zeph and Phalanx for another Vajrayana
from there you can do standard Dragunity plays to get a Level 8 Syncho, or
XYZ summon with the 2 Vajrayana to get Atum, detach and summon Red Eyes Summon the detached Vajrayana with REDMD Synchro Summon a level 8 with the remaining Phalanx and Vaj
So from opening with Zephyrous and Ravine, you start with a field of Atum, Stardust and Red Eyes. Given that your opponent doesn't use hand traps. This is why getting the pieces is so important.
But if you go second and your opponent has backrow, you're probably screwed. Instead of Royal Decree use 3 Mystical Space Typhoon and 2 Forbidden Lance. Decree's too slow unless you're okay with wasting things to go on the defensive.
+3 Mystical Space Typhoon +2 Forbidden Lance
Inferno Reckless Summon only slows you down. It's one card that will be situational and stay in your hand, leaving you wishing that you drew something you could play. Dragon's Mirror removes the cards you want to keep in the Grave (Phalanx) so it's far better to remove it. Your trap line up could be better.
-1 Inferno Reckless -2 Decree -1 Call of the Haunted -1 Dragon's Mirror -1 Starlight -1 Creature Swap -1 Lightning Vortex -1 Mirror Force
+2 Solemn Warning +1 Solemn Judgment +1 Bottomless Trap Hole +2 Compulsory Evacuation Device +1 Fiendish Chain +1 Dragunity Legionnaire
2 Aklys is too much given my changes. Exploder Dragon is better sided since it interferes with your general strategy (spamming). Gorz wil never be summoned since you'll constant backrow/field presence.
-1 Aklys -1 Exploder -1 Gorz
Your Extra needs more:
1 Vajray 1 Stardust 1 Gaia Dragon Charget 1 Constellar Messier 7 1 Ally of Justice Catastor
remove:
-1 Five Headed -1 Red Nova -1 Queen Dragon -1 Black Rose -1 Red Dragon Archfiend
think that's it. your deck should be 40 cards now. |
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crazy88
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:39 pm | |
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Kenshi
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:44 pm | Nah, he isn't needed if you play Mystletainn. p.s. sorry i wrote too much |
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crazy88
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:04 pm | It's fine. You made a lot of good points. Although I would like to keep fgd and dragons mirror. 5000 atk has saved my ass more times than I remember |
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Kenshi
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:07 pm | See, to me, if that FGD gets hit, you've just removed some very imporant combo pieces with Mirror just to bait a trap. That and I would value Avarice higher than FGD in this deck since you may need to recycle Dux and Vajrayanas late game after a grind fest. |
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crazy88
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:15 pm | Alright I'll give it a try. Thanks for the advice you guys |
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Neocryx
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:30 am | If you're still looking for sample builds, I actually just finished posting my own Dragunity deck. The post is a bit long, but I tried to go into a bit more detail about combos and such.
Last edited by Neocryx on Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:33 am; edited 1 time in total |
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crazy88
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:32 am | Just read it. Very interesting stuff |
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WeeDy
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:37 am | i hate u guys cuz u dont like to play with "too many concepts" but i have a proof that the deck might work, here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/w9mhp4this is what i made from his build and there are 3 replays too, definetly im gonna give this deck a bit of attention and improve it till i cant go any further tought i didnt got any red nova yet but the deck gives u some variety, didnt made any work on the extra side yet..... P.S. ik that i made a couple of missplays on the duels and the deck its not very good yet but for god's sake i made it in 5 mins and its 3 am here , give dragunity hieratic a chance guys |
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Katana
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:54 am | For 1 if you want to swarm and maintain concistancy it would be best to work on Hieratic Dragunity more, OR Atum Dragunity. Atum Dragunity is more concistant and usually does about 1 synchro per turn. With the right had u can get off REDMD and hopefully pull off some 4 card monster combos. I've seen it in competitve play, and I think they did good beginning format during a YCS (topping). Ill look into it more later. |
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crazy88
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| Subject: Re: dragon deck needs work Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:15 am | well here's the build I had for my dorm test if ya interested |
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