Great review Hostile, props to you!

There's only 1 thing I disagree with. You say that Abyss Dweller is best in Wind-Ups because it makes an OTK even more... er... OTK? (lol)

Abyss Dweller IS a great card in Wind-Ups, but only because Mermails are a tough matchup and because they have Shark to actually make it a good 2200 ATK monster. That 1700 ATK is so unimpressive that any Deck that doesn't fear Mermails or Dark World, or has no backrow to back this card up, should stay away from Abyss Dweller.

As a matter of fact, more often than not, WU players prefer to go Shock Master over that OTK because it shuts down Gorz/Tragoedia/Fader/Scarecrow, as well as your opponents next turn (most likely). If they have Magician + Shark and backrow to back it up, it's even more wise to go Shock Master and call Spells. The OTK is a risky move that should not be performed unless you are certain of your win. In which case that 700 ATK doesn't add much lol.

Hmm.. I wonder when the next COTW is going to be o.O

Probably a month or two later

I agree with Kyra on the Wind-ups part. Shock Master shuts down Mermail/atlanteans even more and is also easy to make, so it's not mandatory in the deck. Abyss Dweller is a great card against DW and M/A but the attack points are so low even dragon rider normal summoned can overpower it. So I'd add that it needs backrow to be really effective.

Valkyrya hostile is right dweler also help alot wind ups in otk, cause dweler carrier acid golem all water, but ofcourse giga briliant is the normal option when u want to otk, and most times u wont make dweler but it helps vs plants, tomatos, anoying monsters and mermails



@ And nick, shockmaster is beter just cause of diva but most of times u wont make it and dewler is more easy to do it also, dweler can be superrrrrr anoying vs mermails and dw just by the fact u use the efect when u want, and shockmaster u have just 3turns to use it, while that dweler can control the game while they dnt waste cards in grave.

Neither me or Nick said that Dweller should NOT be used in Wind-Ups. On the contrary, I even said it's a great addition, I just disagreed with the reasons Hostile gave.

And what you said about Plants, that's so situational that that alone wouldn't warrant Dweller a spot in WU decks, especially since they already have a really tight Extra. It's all the other reasons that make Dweller a staple in Wind-Ups, the extra damage for a situational OTK is just a bonus.

thanks for the thread, just 1 thing, if you opp alrady activated eff in the grave, you cannot chain this card to it right? because its already activated. so it means you have to use it on SP and cant just chain to stuff which is just a litle bit of minus to this card

Blackbeard wrote:

thanks for the thread, just 1 thing, if you opp alrady activated eff in the grave, you cannot chain this card to it right? because its already activated. so it means you have to use it on SP and cant just chain to stuff which is just a litle bit of minus to this card

Indeed.

Very nice post informed me well of the card but not really into XYZ's me :/

Blackbeard wrote:

thanks for the thread, just 1 thing, if you opp alrady activated eff in the grave, you cannot chain this card to it right? because its already activated. so it means you have to use it on SP and cant just chain to stuff which is just a litle bit of minus to this card

You actually still can still chain Abyss Dweller's effect [as chain link 2 or higher] to an effect which was activated in the grave, after all this is a quick effect which can be chained during opponent's turn. Though as you mentioned, the opponent had already activated the card in the grave, so it will not be stopped by Abyss Dweller's effect. But by no means does this require that you use it exclusively during your opponent's standby phases.

Take for example you play a Dark World deck, they activate dragged down or another one of their spells [as chain link 1], you can chain Abyss dweller effect [as chain link 2]. Resolving the chain: Abyss Dweller will resolve first, thereby preventing any activations in the grave; then the chain link 1 spell's effect resolves & where the opponent discards their Dark World monster. Once the Dark World monster is discarded and hits the grave, then their trigger effect would usually activate at this point, but since Abyss Dweller was already resolved, the DW monster won't get get a chance to activate its effect in the grave.

There's plenty of other situations in which Abyss Dweller can be chained, just gotta know exactly when to do it. I personally see Abyss Dweller as one of the XYZs in my arsenal that I'd consider as a near Staple to the majority of my extra decks that can XYZ summon it. There's so many of the popular decks out right now in the TCG which abyss dweller can majorly slow down if used correctly.

lol... and I talked about this card long time ago in one of my post...